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Y&R: New Interview with Daniel Goddard; (Spoilers)
Topic Started: Jul 8 2012, 02:32 PM (2,675 Views)
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New interview with Daniel Goddard (Cane) where he discusses the daytime soap genre, speculates if Cane's sister could be alive and why Cane/Lily are popular. Also a bit on the new opening credits (it's just an update, not really "new").

http://blogs.dose.ca/2012/07/06/interview-daniel-goddard-the-young-and-the-restless/
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Thanks for posting...

I found his take very interesting on the Billy/Chloe/Mac dynamic and Y&R having a AMC casting director "East Coast vs. West Coast" good analogy DG.
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Billy/Mac had fans too.. and might have worked better if they had another actress in the role. Not that it matters now though, Villy all the way! :)
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Jul 8 2012, 03:07 PM
Billy/Mac had fans too.. and might have worked better if they had another actress in the role. Not that it matters now though, Villy all the way! :)
Billy/Mac were big when DT & AB were in the role. Even when they both left fans were disappointed when they made the two characters cousins.

They could have worked again if they had recast a better actress to play Mac.

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I will never like Cane/Lily. Daniel and Lily were much better.
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Back then, I hated that TIIC went with Billy and Mac. :sleep: I wanted Billy and Chloe.

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I’ve always thought that if a show is in danger of being cancelled, you should try to turn it over to the audience and let them start being involved with storylines that they want to see. It could be very interesting to see the change in numbers. Once you have the audience say, “We like this person, break these people up and put these ones back together,” it would bring back viewers and also bring in new ones.


I agree with DG. Viewers can come up with better stories than TIIC that's for sure.
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I thought Chloe was too asexual to make a pairing believable. I mostly remember Billy Miller smirking and hamming it up in all his scenes. He played up the sleaze non-stop, and when he couldn't play that (starting around Mac and then with Victoria), he seemed to just become bored.

I hated the Esther twist. Seeing Chloe verbally abuse Esther and this written as a pity party for Chloe pretty much guaranteed I would never like Chloe. Some writer apparently realized how awful this looked and had them make up overnight, but I hate that type of writing. It's the same stuff they did when they tried to imply John was a bad father and used this as a reason for Billy to trash his family.
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It's obvious MAB & Co. aren't listening to the fans. They've screwed over practically every fanbase. Putting together couples they know the audience doesn't want to see.

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That was the most honest DG's ever been and he better be careful. MAB might get pissed and reduce his airtime.

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I’m a big believer in watching what works and to go with what works, not what I perceive will work.


That really sums up ONE of the writer's problems. They write what they think sounds interesting and fail to see if it works on screen. Such as the storyline with Ricky. His character was clicking with viewers and they just threw his ass out without even considering a way to bring him back. The inverse can be said about Daisy. Everyone and their mothers hated Daisy, but the writers were hell bent on making her the nuSheila. They failed to see if their writing was clicking or if YZ could deliver the goods.

Clementine Ford's Mac and Billy were NOT popular. That shit was universally panned, but the writers stuck to their guns and tried to make them a couple. When she came on, the show really started to tank. Not saying it was CF's fault, but that is the exact moment the wagon started to fall apart.

Surprisingly, I thought making Esther the mother of Chloe was pretty decent. It was believable twist and the two actresses look alike. I don't give a rat's ass if Chloe chewed her out. Its not like she threw Esther's pregnant ass down some stairs. EH is only sexy when a man is treating her character like shit or gum on the bottom of their shoe. She worked with Ronan, Jonathan and Billy in those pseudo-sadomasochistic storylines. If MAB wants to keep EH, she better buy some nipple clamps, whips, chains, or a penis cage.

I still don't think Lane is universally popular (I'm ashamed that's my real first name). I have been waiting for years for them to get a divorce. I still say they are more of a divisive couple. You love them or hate them. CK is way sexier with MG (when he has a haircut) and I still miss Cane and Amber (she became a mess away from him).

Edited by LPS, Jul 8 2012, 07:41 PM.
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I get the feeling MAB likes to punish the audience if they don't like a storyline, character, or couple the writers want the audience to like.

You notice if a certain story gets a lot of negative buzz the writers will just keep on pushing that story.

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Not a fan of Cane, then again I feel the same about Adam he is so destroyed. Both Cane and Adam should have been left dead. Lily (CK is an Emmy winner) and she does better than Cane, I cannot like him at all.

Adam should have been gone by now I do not care if he is Victor's son. I wish he was not recast after Chris Engen. They should have let the character leave town or die.

They got rid of an innocent child Cassie not to mention a few other legacy characters in the last few years but Adam who has done horrible things stays??

Adam was written into a corner and they said the same about somebody who is now gone, which was not even close or even a criminal like Adam is.

Adam is worse than a criminal.
Edited by Alexandria, Jul 9 2012, 07:00 AM.
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Jul 9 2012, 06:40 AM
Not a fan of Cane, then again I feel the same about Adam he is so destroyed. Both Cane and Adam should have been left dead. Lily (CK is an Emmy winner) and she does better than Cane, I cannot like him at all.

Adam should have been gone by now I do not care if he is Victor's son. I wish he was not recast after Chris Engen. They should have let the character leave town or die.

They got rid of an innocent child Cassie not to mention a few other legacy characters in the last few years but Adam who has done horrible things stays??

Adam was written into a corner and they said the same about somebody who is now gone, which was not even close or even a criminal like Adam is.

Adam is worse than a criminal.
I think Adam was fine when the first Adam played him and that guy can Adam an edge but also made Adam have morals. Which is why he worked and was believable as Victor and Hope's son. I like that he disapproved of the whole baby thing and the Rafe thing and stood his ground on it. Plus I loved how he worked with the first (and best) Heather. Now they pretty much have written into a corner how ever he is slowly making his way out of it much like how they did with Phyllis.

As for Cane as I said before I never been a big fan of his and it really isn't his fault. I stopped watching this show after they broke Daniel and Lily up because their relationship up until the end reminds me of myself and my wife. I was very disappoint on how they broke them up not that they broke them up but how. I was poorly written and done. I was also disappointed that during the whole Cancer storyline they should how much the two still loved each other where she was relying on him more than Cane and after Cane "died" when they were together you saw how well they mixed. They didn't even miss a beat only to be broken up again poorly. As I said before Daniel and Lily had a big following and besides JT and Colleen was one of Y&R last fan favorite super couples (more than Lane). So I was disappointed of this and anytime I hear about Cane or Amber it's just a reminder. So as I said before it's not his fault but more of the writing staff.
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Jul 8 2012, 04:37 PM
I will never like Cane/Lily. Daniel and Lily were much better.
Awwww You Have My Dumplings Daniel & Lily :wub: I wasn't mad at Lynn Marie Latham for this version at all... Graz and Davetta..

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Oh yes i remember when i thought Daniel and Lily was endgame like JT and Colleen. And you know who they could bring back? BRITTANY!!

The new Mac had absolutely no chemistry with anybody.
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Jul 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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Jul 9 2012, 06:40 AM
Not a fan of Cane, then again I feel the same about Adam he is so destroyed. Both Cane and Adam should have been left dead. Lily (CK is an Emmy winner) and she does better than Cane, I cannot like him at all.

Adam should have been gone by now I do not care if he is Victor's son. I wish he was not recast after Chris Engen. They should have let the character leave town or die.

They got rid of an innocent child Cassie not to mention a few other legacy characters in the last few years but Adam who has done horrible things stays??

Adam was written into a corner and they said the same about somebody who is now gone, which was not even close or even a criminal like Adam is.

Adam is worse than a criminal.
I think Adam was fine when the first Adam played him and that guy can Adam an edge but also made Adam have morals. Which is why he worked and was believable as Victor and Hope's son. I like that he disapproved of the whole baby thing and the Rafe thing and stood his ground on it. Plus I loved how he worked with the first (and best) Heather. Now they pretty much have written into a corner how ever he is slowly making his way out of it much like how they did with Phyllis.

As for Cane as I said before I never been a big fan of his and it really isn't his fault. I stopped watching this show after they broke Daniel and Lily up because their relationship up until the end reminds me of myself and my wife. I was very disappoint on how they broke them up not that they broke them up but how. I was poorly written and done. I was also disappointed that during the whole Cancer storyline they should how much the two still loved each other where she was relying on him more than Cane and after Cane "died" when they were together you saw how well they mixed. They didn't even miss a beat only to be broken up again poorly. As I said before Daniel and Lily had a big following and besides JT and Colleen was one of Y&R last fan favorite super couples (more than Lane). So I was disappointed of this and anytime I hear about Cane or Amber it's just a reminder. So as I said before it's not his fault but more of the writing staff.

I don't know what show you have been watching Lily never even saw Daniel when she had Cancer it was talked about on mbs that he never checked on her. He showed up at Lane's house uninvited with Mac when Lily called her family over to tell them about going away for treatment sorry to dissapoint you but Lily relying on Daniel more than Cane did not happen Cane took care of Lily 24/7 when she was sick with Cancer. Not to take anything away from the Daily pairing I do not say one pairing is not popular to prop another but Lane is one of the most popular couples on yandr if not the most popular. All CK's pairings has been popular.
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Jul 8 2012, 07:40 PM
That was the most honest DG's ever been and he better be careful. MAB might get pissed and reduce his airtime.

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I’m a big believer in watching what works and to go with what works, not what I perceive will work.


That really sums up ONE of the writer's problems. They write what they think sounds interesting and fail to see if it works on screen. Such as the storyline with Ricky. His character was clicking with viewers and they just threw his ass out without even considering a way to bring him back. The inverse can be said about Daisy. Everyone and their mothers hated Daisy, but the writers were hell bent on making her the nuSheila. They failed to see if their writing was clicking or if YZ could deliver the goods.

Clementine Ford's Mac and Billy were NOT popular. That shit was universally panned, but the writers stuck to their guns and tried to make them a couple. When she came on, the show really started to tank. Not saying it was CF's fault, but that is the exact moment the wagon started to fall apart.

Surprisingly, I thought making Esther the mother of Chloe was pretty decent. It was believable twist and the two actresses look alike. I don't give a rat's ass if Chloe chewed her out. Its not like she threw Esther's pregnant ass down some stairs. EH is only sexy when a man is treating her character like shit or gum on the bottom of their shoe. She worked with Ronan, Jonathan and Billy in those pseudo-sadomasochistic storylines. If MAB wants to keep EH, she better buy some nipple clamps, whips, chains, or a penis cage.

I still don't think Lane is universally popular (I'm ashamed that's my real first name). I have been waiting for years for them to get a divorce. I still say they are more of a divisive couple. You love them or hate them. CK is way sexier with MG (when he has a haircut) and I still miss Cane and Amber (she became a mess away from him).

All couples have lovers and haters why should that be a reason to break up Lane unless this is applied to all couples and I know it is not. Lane has a large fanbase that is international. There are couples I don't care for but I just ignore them because someone likes them. The show needs all kinds of couples because they have all kinds of viewers and all viewers should be able to watch the show and see the couple they like to gether. Lane is not divisive the people making it that is divisive that has become a catch all phase of late.

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Jul 10 2012, 06:37 AM
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Jul 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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Jul 9 2012, 06:40 AM
Not a fan of Cane, then again I feel the same about Adam he is so destroyed. Both Cane and Adam should have been left dead. Lily (CK is an Emmy winner) and she does better than Cane, I cannot like him at all.

Adam should have been gone by now I do not care if he is Victor's son. I wish he was not recast after Chris Engen. They should have let the character leave town or die.

They got rid of an innocent child Cassie not to mention a few other legacy characters in the last few years but Adam who has done horrible things stays??

Adam was written into a corner and they said the same about somebody who is now gone, which was not even close or even a criminal like Adam is.

Adam is worse than a criminal.
I think Adam was fine when the first Adam played him and that guy can Adam an edge but also made Adam have morals. Which is why he worked and was believable as Victor and Hope's son. I like that he disapproved of the whole baby thing and the Rafe thing and stood his ground on it. Plus I loved how he worked with the first (and best) Heather. Now they pretty much have written into a corner how ever he is slowly making his way out of it much like how they did with Phyllis.

As for Cane as I said before I never been a big fan of his and it really isn't his fault. I stopped watching this show after they broke Daniel and Lily up because their relationship up until the end reminds me of myself and my wife. I was very disappoint on how they broke them up not that they broke them up but how. I was poorly written and done. I was also disappointed that during the whole Cancer storyline they should how much the two still loved each other where she was relying on him more than Cane and after Cane "died" when they were together you saw how well they mixed. They didn't even miss a beat only to be broken up again poorly. As I said before Daniel and Lily had a big following and besides JT and Colleen was one of Y&R last fan favorite super couples (more than Lane). So I was disappointed of this and anytime I hear about Cane or Amber it's just a reminder. So as I said before it's not his fault but more of the writing staff.

I don't know what show you have been watching Lily never even saw Daniel when she had Cancer it was talked about on mbs that he never checked on her. He showed up at Lane's house uninvited with Mac when Lily called her family over to tell them about going away for treatment sorry to dissapoint you but Lily relying on Daniel more than Cane did not happen Cane took care of Lily 24/7 when she was sick with Cancer. Not to take anything away from the Daily pairing I do not say one pairing is not popular to prop another but Lane is one of the most popular couples on yandr if not the most popular. All CK's pairings has been popular.
You're joking right? Daniel saw Lily a lot when she had cancer. That was one of the highlights throughout that whole segment. She leaned on him a lot. He was one of the people that talked her into leaving for her treatment.
Here is just a clip from one of the moments they had together



Daniel has always been there for Lily and she has always leaned on him in times of trouble. While Cane took care of Lily during the storyline she was more open and honest with Daniel. Lane was only popular in their start after that their fan base has dropped big time. Daniel and Lily have always been popular like J.T. and Colleen they are a classic couple Cane and Lily's problem is that they are written bad or with nothing to do which is why they have this big drop off in fans and that whole dying storyline didn't help.
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Jul 10 2012, 06:37 AM
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Jul 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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Jul 9 2012, 06:40 AM
Not a fan of Cane, then again I feel the same about Adam he is so destroyed. Both Cane and Adam should have been left dead. Lily (CK is an Emmy winner) and she does better than Cane, I cannot like him at all.

Adam should have been gone by now I do not care if he is Victor's son. I wish he was not recast after Chris Engen. They should have let the character leave town or die.

They got rid of an innocent child Cassie not to mention a few other legacy characters in the last few years but Adam who has done horrible things stays??

Adam was written into a corner and they said the same about somebody who is now gone, which was not even close or even a criminal like Adam is.

Adam is worse than a criminal.
I think Adam was fine when the first Adam played him and that guy can Adam an edge but also made Adam have morals. Which is why he worked and was believable as Victor and Hope's son. I like that he disapproved of the whole baby thing and the Rafe thing and stood his ground on it. Plus I loved how he worked with the first (and best) Heather. Now they pretty much have written into a corner how ever he is slowly making his way out of it much like how they did with Phyllis.

As for Cane as I said before I never been a big fan of his and it really isn't his fault. I stopped watching this show after they broke Daniel and Lily up because their relationship up until the end reminds me of myself and my wife. I was very disappoint on how they broke them up not that they broke them up but how. I was poorly written and done. I was also disappointed that during the whole Cancer storyline they should how much the two still loved each other where she was relying on him more than Cane and after Cane "died" when they were together you saw how well they mixed. They didn't even miss a beat only to be broken up again poorly. As I said before Daniel and Lily had a big following and besides JT and Colleen was one of Y&R last fan favorite super couples (more than Lane). So I was disappointed of this and anytime I hear about Cane or Amber it's just a reminder. So as I said before it's not his fault but more of the writing staff.

I don't know what show you have been watching Lily never even saw Daniel when she had Cancer it was talked about on mbs that he never checked on her. He showed up at Lane's house uninvited with Mac when Lily called her family over to tell them about going away for treatment sorry to dissapoint you but Lily relying on Daniel more than Cane did not happen Cane took care of Lily 24/7 when she was sick with Cancer. Not to take anything away from the Daily pairing I do not say one pairing is not popular to prop another but Lane is one of the most popular couples on yandr if not the most popular. All CK's pairings has been popular.
You're joking right? Daniel saw Lily a lot when she had cancer. That was one of the highlights throughout that whole segment. She leaned on him a lot. He was one of the people that talked her into leaving for her treatment.
Here is just a clip from one of the moments they had together



Daniel has always been there for Lily and she has always leaned on him in times of trouble. While Cane took care of Lily during the storyline she was more open and honest with Daniel. Lane was only popular in their start after that their fan base has dropped big time. Daniel and Lily have always been popular like J.T. and Colleen they are a classic couple Cane and Lily's problem is that they are written bad or with nothing to do which is why they have this big drop off in fans and that whole dying storyline didn't help.

Daniel talked to Lily in a couple of scenes about telling Cane her test came back postive before he were sent out of the country that is not taking care of Lily. Cane took care of Lily
and only Cane took care of Lily. Lily was not leaning on Daniel he saw she was worry and he kept asking her what was wrong and she told him she did not want to worry Cane Daniel told her she was the last person that should hold back something because of the way she felt about a person hiding things referring to him hiding his relationship with porn and Amber. Lane is popular and their popularity is growing all the time just because some wish it not to be so does not change the facts. Lane fans are not fair weather fans that drop off when something bad happens to them if they were Lane would not exist Lane fans get stronger when the destruction comes that is why Lane is so popular and growing in popularity all the time it is their fans not the story we love Lane because of CK and DG not because of the writing for them. They love their fans back and their fans know it and we are there for them no matter what. Daniel ran into Lily at GCAC that is not checking on Lily because he was concerned about her health there is a very, very big difference. That dying story line did not run off Lane fans they came together stronger for DG and CK.
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You're joking right? Daniel saw Lily a lot when she had cancer. That was one of the highlights throughout that whole segment. She leaned on him a lot. He was one of the people that talked her into leaving for her treatment.
Here is just a clip from one of the moments they had together



Daniel has always been there for Lily and she has always leaned on him in times of trouble. While Cane took care of Lily during the storyline she was more open and honest with Daniel. Lane was only popular in their start after that their fan base has dropped big time. Daniel and Lily have always been popular like J.T. and Colleen they are a classic couple Cane and Lily's problem is that they are written bad or with nothing to do which is why they have this big drop off in fans and that whole dying storyline didn't help.

Daniel talked to Lily in a couple of scenes about telling Cane her test came back postive before he were sent out of the country that is not taking care of Lily. Cane took care of Lily
and only Cane took care of Lily. Lily was not leaning on Daniel he saw she was worry and he kept asking her what was wrong and she told him she did not want to worry Cane Daniel told her she was the last person that should hold back something because of the way she felt about a person hiding things referring to him hiding his relationship with porn and Amber. Lane is popular and their popularity is growing all the time just because some wish it not to be so does not change the facts. Lane fans are not fair weather fans that drop off when something bad happens to them if they were Lane would not exist Lane fans get stronger when the destruction comes that is why Lane is so popular and growing in popularity all the time it is their fans not the story we love Lane because of CK and DG not because of the writing for them. They love their fans back and their fans know it and we are there for them no matter what. Daniel ran into Lily at GCAC that is not checking on Lily because he was concerned about her health there is a very, very big difference. That dying story line did not run off Lane fans they came together stronger for DG and CK.
I never said Daniel took care of Lily I said she relied on him more than Cane. Also Lane isn't that popular and that has to do with a lot of the writing plus the fact that CK is not to fond of DG. She was in favor of Daniel and Lily getting back together . What makes Daniel and Lily so loved is the struggles they have been through together even while you had Lane Daniel was still there as was Lily. That's what makes them special you can see the chemistry with them more than you can with her and Cane or him with all the other women. See for a couple to work it has to help that they like one another as well Daniel and Lily worked because they are great friends the other Daniel and Lily worked even better because they were dating off screen at the time and brought that with them on screen as well. Lily and Cane just seem to be going through the motion.
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You're joking right? Daniel saw Lily a lot when she had cancer. That was one of the highlights throughout that whole segment. She leaned on him a lot. He was one of the people that talked her into leaving for her treatment.
Here is just a clip from one of the moments they had together



Daniel has always been there for Lily and she has always leaned on him in times of trouble. While Cane took care of Lily during the storyline she was more open and honest with Daniel. Lane was only popular in their start after that their fan base has dropped big time. Daniel and Lily have always been popular like J.T. and Colleen they are a classic couple Cane and Lily's problem is that they are written bad or with nothing to do which is why they have this big drop off in fans and that whole dying storyline didn't help.

Daniel talked to Lily in a couple of scenes about telling Cane her test came back postive before he were sent out of the country that is not taking care of Lily. Cane took care of Lily
and only Cane took care of Lily. Lily was not leaning on Daniel he saw she was worry and he kept asking her what was wrong and she told him she did not want to worry Cane Daniel told her she was the last person that should hold back something because of the way she felt about a person hiding things referring to him hiding his relationship with porn and Amber. Lane is popular and their popularity is growing all the time just because some wish it not to be so does not change the facts. Lane fans are not fair weather fans that drop off when something bad happens to them if they were Lane would not exist Lane fans get stronger when the destruction comes that is why Lane is so popular and growing in popularity all the time it is their fans not the story we love Lane because of CK and DG not because of the writing for them. They love their fans back and their fans know it and we are there for them no matter what. Daniel ran into Lily at GCAC that is not checking on Lily because he was concerned about her health there is a very, very big difference. That dying story line did not run off Lane fans they came together stronger for DG and CK.
I never said Daniel took care of Lily I said she relied on him more than Cane. Also Lane isn't that popular and that has to do with a lot of the writing plus the fact that CK is not to fond of DG. She was in favor of Daniel and Lily getting back together . What makes Daniel and Lily so loved is the struggles they have been through together even while you had Lane Daniel was still there as was Lily. That's what makes them special you can see the chemistry with them more than you can with her and Cane or him with all the other women. See for a couple to work it has to help that they like one another as well Daniel and Lily worked because they are great friends the other Daniel and Lily worked even better because they were dating off screen at the time and brought that with them on screen as well. Lily and Cane just seem to be going through the motion.

Ok I am out of here now you are really off CK DG are freinds they hang out off screen and they both have gushed about their friendship and the love they have for each other. You see whatever you want to see ok have at it your way I will stick to the truth.
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